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i pursued dianne feinstein's point about staff. when you go and you have under the previous administration a briefing with the president, the vice president, under the head of the cia, others, you're not allowed to -- i can remember driving with pat roberts when he was chairman and i was vice chairman. we weren't allowed to talk to each other. driving up or driving back. weren't allowed to do that. staff were a part of nothing. you have to understand that you're surrounded by people who work with you and fill you in. people who are experts. we are, too. but they got to be part of this. they got to be part of when the olc is -- it should come to them, also. i strongly support the chairwoman's view on that. now, in the enhanced interrogation techniques matter, a handful of former senior cia officials who were personally invested and are personally invested in defending the cia's detention and interrogation program, largely because their professional reputations depend on it, depend on it, purport to speak for the cia and its workforc
i pursued dianne feinstein's point about staff. when you go and you have under the previous administration a briefing with the president, the vice president, under the head of the cia, others, you're not allowed to -- i can remember driving with pat roberts when he was chairman and i was vice chairman. we weren't allowed to talk to each other. driving up or driving back. weren't allowed to do that. staff were a part of nothing. you have to understand that you're surrounded by people who work...
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senator feinstein asked for protesters to be removed from the room. i was not able to catch a glimpse of the banner they were holding. it's not unusual to see these disruptions. but we'll get more on exactly what was going on there but these are live pictures right now. you hear the gavel but just quickly -- let's just -- we were going to talk about hagel but i want to talk about brennan. you are expecting fireworks, right? that's what we've been talking about. >> i think we expect brennan to be confirmed, especially considering polls on drones, for example, show 83% of americans a year ago support the president's use of drones overseas. that doesn't mean that there isn't a significant and deep disaffection for the use of them or, for example, we talked about it yesterday, or the which are or enhanced interrogation techniques as the bush administration called it. all of that is stuff john brennan knows a heck of a lot about and people will be outraged he is president obama's nominee. >> we discussed this prior but originally we thought, you know, the
senator feinstein asked for protesters to be removed from the room. i was not able to catch a glimpse of the banner they were holding. it's not unusual to see these disruptions. but we'll get more on exactly what was going on there but these are live pictures right now. you hear the gavel but just quickly -- let's just -- we were going to talk about hagel but i want to talk about brennan. you are expecting fireworks, right? that's what we've been talking about. >> i think we expect...
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dianne feinstein is leading the confirmation hearings for cia director nominee john brennan and that's "special report" for tonight. i'm chris wallace in washington. keep it right here on fox where more news is always on the way. "special report" online wit
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they released it clearly because ron widen and other democrats were saying, look if we -- dianne feinstein, if we don't get this, it's going to be a problem. you don't want it to be more of a public problem with john brennan than it already is going to be, but the hearing is already i think shaping up to be a debate. among democrats and republicans, but a lot of folks -- should we be telling -- you don't want them to turn into an all-out back and forth over this. if you give us this document, it might not be great for john brennan, but it seems likely we're not going to hold this up. it seems like he winds up getting confirmed. they did it under dur es. if -- in a perfect world i don't think the white house would have chosen to just sort of put this documentation out there. the timing of it suggests they wouldn't. >> well, let's take a look, a quick look, at john brennan back at the woodrow wilson center back in april last april with his explanation for why he believed that drones do conform to principles of humanity and here's his words. >> targeted strikes conform to the principle of hum
they released it clearly because ron widen and other democrats were saying, look if we -- dianne feinstein, if we don't get this, it's going to be a problem. you don't want it to be more of a public problem with john brennan than it already is going to be, but the hearing is already i think shaping up to be a debate. among democrats and republicans, but a lot of folks -- should we be telling -- you don't want them to turn into an all-out back and forth over this. if you give us this document,...
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when you hear dianne feinstein say why can't staff be involved? they have experts who work on their staff and, you know, if you were handed or i was handed a memo that was complex and we got a chance to read it but then they took it away and no one else could see it, yes, you had some oversight but you really didn't get a chance to study it to make lots of informed questions about it, that sort of thing. so that's part of that appeal. barbara mikulski said she's been jerked around time and time again. that gives you a window into a frustration where highly trusted members of congress are not getting answers and they let it be known. >> now, kelly, the brennan hearings sort of took up all the oxygen in political washington yesterday, but there was a hearing earlier in the day, senate armed services committee, leon panetta, the outgoing defense secretary, talked about many things but i want to play something about the attack in benghazi and the exchange between he and lindsey graham. >> it lasted almost eight hours. and my question to you is during
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. >> please -- >> senator feinstein zsh if you could please expedite the removal. >>> we have michael isakoff, and the correspondent who obtained the white page memo, jim warren, chicago editor of the daily beast and newsweek and karen finney and john braybender. michael, i want to start with you because it was your reporting that started all of this for the american people to get to learn more about how the administration feels it is legal in the choices made for drone strikes. one thing politico is reporting in the article that they have on this and, of course, the two hearings we were watching yesterday, one being leon panetta on benghazi and the other one with john brennan in the afternoon, it says, senators were looking for a pinata, for hours, brennan was battered by senators even though many of the complaints had little or nothing to do with him. what did we learn? what did we walk away with? >> actually, very little. although i think there was a lot of expectations that we were going to get more transparency, particularly because president obama had just the night before said
. >> please -- >> senator feinstein zsh if you could please expedite the removal. >>> we have michael isakoff, and the correspondent who obtained the white page memo, jim warren, chicago editor of the daily beast and newsweek and karen finney and john braybender. michael, i want to start with you because it was your reporting that started all of this for the american people to get to learn more about how the administration feels it is legal in the choices made for drone...
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in the senate only dianne feinstein's intelligence committee has been briefed but feinstein has long argued that based on those briefings civilian casualties are very low. here she is in 2011. >> the collateral damage is greatly reduced beyond what you may read in the press. i have asked please please, please can i release these numbers? the answer is no, they're classified. that's about as far as i could go on that. >> jennifer: and today she still didn't realize numbers. she did say though, that civilian deaths were in the single digits. but one of brennan's loudest critics called for more information about the strikes specifically ron widen wanted to know when the government is authorized to target americans if those americans are thought to have ties to terrorists? >> what do you think needs to be done to ensure that members of the public understand more about when the government thinks it's allow to kill them? >> i have been a strong proponent of being open as possible in these programs as far as what we're doing. what we need to do to optimize transparency and optimize secrecy
in the senate only dianne feinstein's intelligence committee has been briefed but feinstein has long argued that based on those briefings civilian casualties are very low. here she is in 2011. >> the collateral damage is greatly reduced beyond what you may read in the press. i have asked please please, please can i release these numbers? the answer is no, they're classified. that's about as far as i could go on that. >> jennifer: and today she still didn't realize numbers. she did...
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senator feinstein today clearly wanted to get on with it, right? regardless of how you feel about the cia or killing people outside war zones or john brennan or the senate or for that matter dianne feinstein you kind of have to tip your hat to the code pink folks just on operational grounds, right? i mean, they can get it done. since they started showing up in washington almost a decade ago, even though everybody knows they're coming now, code pink still gets in everywhere. >> fire rumsfeld! >> this hearing is adjourned. >> thou shall not kill. thou shall not kill. >> clear the room. >> reckless behavior. the nra has blood on its hands. the nra has blood on its hands. shame on the nra. >> i'm going to ask that the room be cleared and that the code pink associates not be permitted to come back in. we've done this five times now and five times are enough. >> somebody today christened this the code pink filibuster. and you know, i know, what code pink was doing was not a real filibuster, but they did cause a very real delay, as they always do, and god
senator feinstein today clearly wanted to get on with it, right? regardless of how you feel about the cia or killing people outside war zones or john brennan or the senate or for that matter dianne feinstein you kind of have to tip your hat to the code pink folks just on operational grounds, right? i mean, they can get it done. since they started showing up in washington almost a decade ago, even though everybody knows they're coming now, code pink still gets in everywhere. >> fire...
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feinstein said it's no big deal that we killed them and if you knew what we know. yeah, why don't you share. why don't you ask john bran anyone who's in front of you going to be the next head of the c.i.a. if you vote for him, what evidence did you have to kill awlkai and his 16-year-old son in a different strike, who is also a u.s. citizen. there are no coincidences. we killed him and another u.s. citizenual with him in a separate strike, we accidentally happened to kill someone else in his family, a 16-year-old, also a u.s. citizen. those questions didn't get asked. asked who made the decision to execute a 16-year-old u.s. citizen, was it you or someone else? >> weirdly the u.s. senators were polite and did not ask. they asked interesting questions including this question. >> i never believe it's better the to kill a terrorist than to detain him. we want to detain as many terrorists as possible to elicit the intelligence from them to stop terrorist attacks. we only use these authorities and capabilities as a last resort. >> cenk: oh, yeah. you wanted to retain hi
feinstein said it's no big deal that we killed them and if you knew what we know. yeah, why don't you share. why don't you ask john bran anyone who's in front of you going to be the next head of the c.i.a. if you vote for him, what evidence did you have to kill awlkai and his 16-year-old son in a different strike, who is also a u.s. citizen. there are no coincidences. we killed him and another u.s. citizenual with him in a separate strike, we accidentally happened to kill someone else in his...
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from protesters in the crowd who repeatedly interrupted hearing, forcing a frustrated senator dianne feinstein to clear the room. >> please clear the room. please clear the room. >> stand up against torture, stand up against drones, do what we can not to confirm this man. >> they won't even tell congress what country we are killing children? >> if you could please expa did it the removal -- >> are our children more important than the children of pakistan and yemen? do your jobs! >> the capitol police confirm eight people were arrested at the hearing for unlawful conduct. >>> it was a separate hearing on capitol hill that offered new insights into the white house's decision-making concerning the civil war in syria. it happened as outgoing secretary leon panetta and martin dempsey were testifying before the senate armed services committee. they were asked about the administration's decision not to arm the syrian rebels in their effort to overthrow the assad regime. the plan had received support from the pentagon, the cia, secretary clinton. but ultimately it was the white house that turned down
from protesters in the crowd who repeatedly interrupted hearing, forcing a frustrated senator dianne feinstein to clear the room. >> please clear the room. please clear the room. >> stand up against torture, stand up against drones, do what we can not to confirm this man. >> they won't even tell congress what country we are killing children? >> if you could please expa did it the removal -- >> are our children more important than the children of pakistan and yemen?...
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senator feinstein did say it's time for full disclosure. >> when i asked to give out the actual numbers, i'm told you can't. i say why not? because it's classified. it's a covert program. for the public it doesn't exist. well, i think that rationale, mr. brennan, is long gone. >> john brennan would not commit to additional disclosures, but he defended the legality of the program. >> the president has insisted that any actions we take will be legally grounded, will be thoroughly anchored in intelligence, will have the appropriate review process, approval process before any action is contemplated, including those actions that might involve the use of lethal force. >> to be fair, it sounds like the bush administration all over. democrats and republicans voiced their concerns, but it was independent senator from maine angus king who questioned the executive power of the president. >> having the executive being the prosecutor, the judge, the jury, and the executioner all in one is very contrary to the traditions and the laws of this country. >> unilateral execution power of the president is
senator feinstein did say it's time for full disclosure. >> when i asked to give out the actual numbers, i'm told you can't. i say why not? because it's classified. it's a covert program. for the public it doesn't exist. well, i think that rationale, mr. brennan, is long gone. >> john brennan would not commit to additional disclosures, but he defended the legality of the program. >> the president has insisted that any actions we take will be legally grounded, will be...
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widen is the leader of the rebellious group on the senate intelligence committee, not the chair, dianne feinstein who we'll be talking to tomorrow. but ron widen is asking this question and down at the retreat in annapolis, he told our own mike viqueira, every american has the right to know when their government believes that it is allowed to kill them. >> you know, this is an issue that puts president obama at odds with his base. when he came into the white house, he was very critical of the bush administration for waterboarding, for enhanced -- he called for more transparency. the administration has not been transparent. it's only because of a leak that we know as much as we do about the targeting of american, how it's done, when it's allowed. and that's why we're going to have a discussion about this and that's also why it does not imperil brennan's nomination. because the people who are most distressed about there are part of the core democratic groups that are going to vote with the president i think when it comes to john brennan. but it is an opportunity to have a conversation that we have
widen is the leader of the rebellious group on the senate intelligence committee, not the chair, dianne feinstein who we'll be talking to tomorrow. but ron widen is asking this question and down at the retreat in annapolis, he told our own mike viqueira, every american has the right to know when their government believes that it is allowed to kill them. >> you know, this is an issue that puts president obama at odds with his base. when he came into the white house, he was very critical of...
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senator feinstein was obviously working behind the scenes. and so finally last night around 6:30, 7:00 last night, the white house relented and the president called wyden. i know you guys are going to talk to wyden later. but this is a very big deal because now the drone policy is going to be central to this confirmation hearing today. >> you know, yesterday pete wehner wrote this. and he's quoting barack obama from may 29th, 2009, the famous speech at the national archives. where he says, let me be clear. we are at war with al qaeda, but we need to update our institutions and do so with an abiding confidence in the rule of law and due process. in checks and balances and accountability for reasons i will explain, the decisions were made over the last eight years during the bush years established an ad hoc legal approach for fighting terrorism that was neither effective nor sustainable. a framework that failed to rely on our legal traditions and time-tested institutions and that failed to use our values as a compass. those words, steve, whethe
senator feinstein was obviously working behind the scenes. and so finally last night around 6:30, 7:00 last night, the white house relented and the president called wyden. i know you guys are going to talk to wyden later. but this is a very big deal because now the drone policy is going to be central to this confirmation hearing today. >> you know, yesterday pete wehner wrote this. and he's quoting barack obama from may 29th, 2009, the famous speech at the national archives. where he...
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i do know, though, that senator feinstein has finally gotten, she's the chairman of the senate intelligence committee, has finally gotten a report out of the committee, through the republicans and senate vote, allegedly it's 6,000 pages long. and it covers all things torture. and she's very upset about the film. and she believes that whatever you want to say about torture and its human rights violations, that it did not produce the intelligence that the film suggests that it did. >> and she says the use of these harsh interrogation techniques was quote "far more systematic and widespread than we thought." but how do we ever know if that report isn't published? >> this is one of the problems with oversight of national security matters. some of these things have to remain secret. you can debate over which ones should and which ones shouldn't. but someone has to decide that this information can be released without harming national security. and i don't see that happening any time in the near future. it is possible that some of the findings could get out, though, in a declassified version. >> c
i do know, though, that senator feinstein has finally gotten, she's the chairman of the senate intelligence committee, has finally gotten a report out of the committee, through the republicans and senate vote, allegedly it's 6,000 pages long. and it covers all things torture. and she's very upset about the film. and she believes that whatever you want to say about torture and its human rights violations, that it did not produce the intelligence that the film suggests that it did. >> and...
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and remember, historically speaking, it was dianne feinstein who got the old assault weapons ban passed in 1994, and nobody thought she could have done it then either. on the other side of congress, in the republican-controlled house, the leading voice for gun reform is of course democrat carolyn mccarthy, who lost her >>> it took until two and a half years into his first term as president. it took until more than halfway through his first term for president obama to put to rest the absolutely nutty electric kool aid acid test right wing fantasy conspiracy theory that he was secretly foreign, therefore secretly not really president of the united states at all. >> we do not have time for this kind of silliness. we got better stuff to do. i've got better stuff to do. we've got big problems to solve. >> it took that act in april 2011, the release of the president's long formed birth certificate to finally quiet the wild incoherent questioning of president obama's citizenship. yeah, right. of course, that did not quiet those conspiracy theories on the right. if those things could be disprov
and remember, historically speaking, it was dianne feinstein who got the old assault weapons ban passed in 1994, and nobody thought she could have done it then either. on the other side of congress, in the republican-controlled house, the leading voice for gun reform is of course democrat carolyn mccarthy, who lost her >>> it took until two and a half years into his first term as president. it took until more than halfway through his first term for president obama to put to rest the...
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the committee's chair, dianne feinstein, eventually cleared the room. later, brennan cited the protesters when he addressed what he called a misperception about the goal of the drone strikes. let's listen. >> i think there is a misimpression on the part of some american people who believe that we take strikes to punish terrorists for past transgressions. nothing could be further from the truth. we only take such actions as a last resort to save lives when there's no other alternative to taking an action that's going to mitigate that threat. so we need to make sure there is an understanding, and the people that were standing up here today, i think they really have a misunderstanding of what we do as a government and the care that we take and the agony that we go through to make sure that we do not have any collateral injuries or deaths. >> robin, when he described this as a last resort to save lives, one reaction i had is, among the lives we save when we use drones are those of troops who otherwise would be going into harm's way. >> absolutely. i lived i
the committee's chair, dianne feinstein, eventually cleared the room. later, brennan cited the protesters when he addressed what he called a misperception about the goal of the drone strikes. let's listen. >> i think there is a misimpression on the part of some american people who believe that we take strikes to punish terrorists for past transgressions. nothing could be further from the truth. we only take such actions as a last resort to save lives when there's no other alternative to...
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senator dianne feinstein then let the hearing resume after about a ten-minute break with a lot of empty chairs in there. she is allowed to ask them to leave when there are disruptions that sort of determined at the discretion of the chair, wolf. >> there's been a bunch of questions on what's called enhanced interrogation. some call it torcher on very, very sensitive issues. what did he have to say? >> reporter: the nominee in the past has said that he opposed enhanced interrogation but he was asked about a statement he made in 2007 to cbs news in which he said in part, quote, there has been a lot of information that has come out from these interrogation procedures that the agency, be meaning the cia, has in fact used against the real hardcore terrorists and it has saved lives. well, he was asked to defend that statement. why does he think back in 2007 enhanced interrogation saved lives but now he doesn't. this administration opposes enhanced interrogation, wolf. john brennan said, it was the work of this very committee that he's testifying in front of that issued his mind. they issued a
senator dianne feinstein then let the hearing resume after about a ten-minute break with a lot of empty chairs in there. she is allowed to ask them to leave when there are disruptions that sort of determined at the discretion of the chair, wolf. >> there's been a bunch of questions on what's called enhanced interrogation. some call it torcher on very, very sensitive issues. what did he have to say? >> reporter: the nominee in the past has said that he opposed enhanced interrogation...
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i pursued dianne feinstein's point about staff. when you go and you have under the there was administration a briefing with the president or the vice president under the head of the cia and others, you are not allowed to -- i can remember driving with pat robert when is he was chair uh and i was vice chairman, we were not allowed to talk to each other driving up or back. we were not allowed to. the staff was a part of nothing. you have to understand that you are surrounded by people who work with you and fill you in. people were experts. we are too. they have to be part of this. they have to be part of when the olc is coming to them also. i strongly support the chair woman's view on this. in the enhanced intergirogation techniques matter, a handful of officials who were invested and are personally invested in defending the cia's interrogation program, largely because their reputations depend on it. the report to speak for the cia on this issue and i think it does all a great disservice. in high office, you and i discussed the landm
i pursued dianne feinstein's point about staff. when you go and you have under the there was administration a briefing with the president or the vice president under the head of the cia and others, you are not allowed to -- i can remember driving with pat robert when is he was chair uh and i was vice chairman, we were not allowed to talk to each other driving up or back. we were not allowed to. the staff was a part of nothing. you have to understand that you are surrounded by people who work...
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msnbc, the president's host, minneapolis mayor slammed harry reid for saying he hadn't read dianne feinstein's bill banning assault weapons. >> how can harry reid, a fellow democrat, and i'm willing to criticize him, say he hasn't read the bill. this is an emergency. let's knock off the washington baloney and support the president and get some things done. >> the white house wants to overload washington's political circuits. an effort to see what it can get through congress without letting congress and particularly congressional republicans, define what issues get addressed. republican leaders are making it clear they prefer to talk about just one thing before the march budget shutdown. >> this was supposed to be the day that the president submitted his budget to the congress. but it's not coming. i think that's too bad. our economy could use some presidential leadership right now. >> and top senate republican mitch mcconnell was just as eager to talk budget hitting the floor to slam democrats for floating new revenue proposals. >> this is just another opportunity to trot out the democrat focu
msnbc, the president's host, minneapolis mayor slammed harry reid for saying he hadn't read dianne feinstein's bill banning assault weapons. >> how can harry reid, a fellow democrat, and i'm willing to criticize him, say he hasn't read the bill. this is an emergency. let's knock off the washington baloney and support the president and get some things done. >> the white house wants to overload washington's political circuits. an effort to see what it can get through congress without...
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. >> please -- >> senator feinstein. >> if you could please expedite the removal. >> more important than the children of pakistan and yemen? are they more important? do your job! >> the hearing serve as a public discussion of the most controversial counterterrorism policies that began under president george w. bush and, in part, have continued and expanded under president obama. brennan's defense of the secrecy surrounding the administration's most questionable program, targeted assassinations using drone aircraft, was as opaque as the program itself. >> what we need to do is optimize transparency on these issues, but at the same time optimize secrecy and the protection of our national security. i don't think that it's one or the other. it's trying to optimize both of them. >> some senators, including ron widen and angus king, pushed brennan to explain the legal at and justification for assassinating american citizens abroad. >> every american has the right to know when their government believes it's allowed to kill them. >> i understand you can't have co-commanders in chief, but having
. >> please -- >> senator feinstein. >> if you could please expedite the removal. >> more important than the children of pakistan and yemen? are they more important? do your job! >> the hearing serve as a public discussion of the most controversial counterterrorism policies that began under president george w. bush and, in part, have continued and expanded under president obama. brennan's defense of the secrecy surrounding the administration's most questionable...
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>> dianne feinstein, the chair of the committee yesterday still saying yesterday they wanted the original documents. then today on our program at 1:00, the house chairman, who carries a lot of weight about and has is very supportive, a former fbi guy, a republican, though, said he also thought the original memos should be turned over, that the white paper that had been turned over to them last summer that michael isikoff uncovered and reported first on your show was not good enough. that it needed to finally be the actual legal guidance that was turned over to the oversight committees. and we're talking about the two intelligence committees, rachel, who handle classified information all the time. and there haven't been any leaks out of those committees. so they were facing a confirmation hearing that was potentially contentious. and also, other answers were given to the committee that were revealed today from john brennan. we can talk about that after a moment. they knew that there were other issues they were going to have to deal with. they needed to get this off the table. >> well, in t
>> dianne feinstein, the chair of the committee yesterday still saying yesterday they wanted the original documents. then today on our program at 1:00, the house chairman, who carries a lot of weight about and has is very supportive, a former fbi guy, a republican, though, said he also thought the original memos should be turned over, that the white paper that had been turned over to them last summer that michael isikoff uncovered and reported first on your show was not good enough. that...
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. >> gun control, you could ban all dianne feinsteins, do whatever she wants to with magazines, it's not going to make any kid safer. >> okay. they're buddies now. >> they're not buddies. joe biden is good at making deals on the hill because these talking to these guys as equals. we know what's what, i'm not going to promise you the moon, this might make a little bit of a different. here's the way policy-making works in general. you have a crisis, you break glass in case of emergency. there's some policy agenda that's been collecting dust on the shelf and you break it out. remember the iraq war, same thing. 9/11 happens, iraqhad nothing to do with 9/11, but a lot of people wanted to invade iraq -- >> there's some people who think you're talking crazy talk there are people who want gun control, there was a political opportunity to push gun control agenda that was round for a long time before this. >> do unthis undercuts joe biden's argument? what he's saying had a lot of truth, yet yet you surround yourself with kids two weeks before to say, we're going to prevent mass shootings with
. >> gun control, you could ban all dianne feinsteins, do whatever she wants to with magazines, it's not going to make any kid safer. >> okay. they're buddies now. >> they're not buddies. joe biden is good at making deals on the hill because these talking to these guys as equals. we know what's what, i'm not going to promise you the moon, this might make a little bit of a different. here's the way policy-making works in general. you have a crisis, you break glass in case of...
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. >> and the chair of the senate intelligence committee, dianne feinstein, who said that she did receive this memo when congress first asked last year for better explanation, still wants to see the actual legal orders and the white house just told me they're not going to turn those over because they feel that that is basically lawyer-client privilege, privilege between the president's counsel in the justice department and him. the other thing here is she did defend the use of this for the killing of al alakhi in yemen because he was involved in supposedly the plot for the christmas bombing. >> look, there seems to be a consensus within government that he was a bad guy and that we were justified in taking him out. on the other hand, critics will say, he was an american citizen. he had never been charged with a crime. >> they may have been right about him, but what kind of precedent does that set down the road when maybe it's not president obama in office. others who might have -- even other ideas about who is a threat and who is not. >> mike, i know you're going to have more on this later
. >> and the chair of the senate intelligence committee, dianne feinstein, who said that she did receive this memo when congress first asked last year for better explanation, still wants to see the actual legal orders and the white house just told me they're not going to turn those over because they feel that that is basically lawyer-client privilege, privilege between the president's counsel in the justice department and him. the other thing here is she did defend the use of this for the...
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and remember, historically speaking, it was dianne feinstein who got the old assault weapons ban passed in 1994, and nobody thought she could have done it then either. on the other side of congress, in the republican-controlled house, the leading voice for gun reform is of course democrat carolyn mccarthy, who lost her husband to gun violence before she entered politics. she tells us, quote, i'm looking forward to seeing what the senate majority puts together, because it's clear that the house majority will only follow from there. so congresswoman mccarthy effectively saying that gun reform starts with the democrats in the senate. that's as ambitious as any of this is ever going to get. whatever the senate democrats do on this issue will set the bar for republicans in the house to compromise away from. you're never going to get any better than what you get from senate democrats. you might get significantly worse. in other words, aim high. the story line here is far from complete, but at least the arc of how this is going to happen is starting to get clear. my bad. tell me you have good
and remember, historically speaking, it was dianne feinstein who got the old assault weapons ban passed in 1994, and nobody thought she could have done it then either. on the other side of congress, in the republican-controlled house, the leading voice for gun reform is of course democrat carolyn mccarthy, who lost her husband to gun violence before she entered politics. she tells us, quote, i'm looking forward to seeing what the senate majority puts together, because it's clear that the house...